Jun
5
2008

QQ 3bet Pot vs Monkey – Best Line When K Flops?

Villain is 52/26 over 38 hands.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold’em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.comHand History Converter

CO: $99
BTN: $399.40
SB: $204
Hero (BB): $200
UTG: $118
UTG+1: $222.65
UTG+2: $3.75
MP1: $200
MP2: $197.20

Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, 4 folds, BTN raises to $10, SB folds, Hero raises to $34, 2 folds, BTN calls $24

Flop: ($73) 6 2 K (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $40, Hero calls $40

Overcard is kind of sucky, but on deeper thought he would probably have shoved AK pre and KQ is less likely becuase I hold two of the queens. No doubt a player like this would call a 3bet with KJ/KT and maybe some other Ks too though. This guy is a donk, only one overcard flopped and I’m not too uncomfortable felting this. So how best to maximise value? I think if we bet we risk him folding a lot of worse hands he might bet if checked to or put money in on later streets with, so I opted to check and call.

Turn: ($153) 7 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $80, Hero raises to $126 and is All-In, BTN calls $46

Here is where I think I probably went wrong, with the third diamond coming on the turn and the pot being largish. I probably could have just shoved the turn here and this guy would have called with a lone big diamond and TT/JJ types hands with a diamond in them. By going for a c/r I gave him a chance to check behind and take a free shot at a flush. I think I like my line better here if I have the Qd in my hand, which I don’t.

Anyway, I’d appreciate in comments and thoughts on this hand. It is always awkward when an over card flops and you are out of position, even against horrible players.

About the Author: Andrew Ferguson

3 Comments + Add Comment

  • standard c-bet; for balance, for value and to avoid tricky spots on later streets. check-calling also turns your hand face up and gives you no information on the turn.

  • I hate these spots. If you c-bet the flop and villain raises how do we play it then? I think the c/r on the turn is getting called 100% of the time here due to pot odds. If you planned on getting all yourmoney in would it be not better to donk-shove 1st in?

  • Yes, as I mentioned I misplayed the turn, I think I should have just open shoved. As for the flop, I can see the merits of betting but I really hate bet/folding, bet/calling is okay, but I don’t think it gets as much value as letting this guy bluff.

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